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Wisloe Action Group - Keep Wisloe Green

Update 24:12:2019

Wisloe Action Group (WaG)

Thank you to the many residents who ventured out on a cold wet December evening, just before Christmas, to support your action group meeting.

We are creating a supporters list and will be in touch in between Christmas and the New Year. We will provide you with the information you requested to help you deliver leaflets and canvas your neighbours.

In the meantime.....Please help by ;
- spreading the truth about the draft local plan and the proposal for Wisloe
- Explain how it will impact our lives,
- & how to raise objections (and alternative suggestions) to Stroud District Council by the 22nd January 2020 deadline.

Thank you for your support.

Merry Christmas!


After the resent Parish Council Meeting and SDC Planing Review an Action Group was formed to try and stop the latest Ernest Cook Trust/GCC plan for the Parish. There will be a meeting Monday 23rd Dec 7:00pm at the Village Hall. Tell EVERYONE!


Recap

In 1919 the then Health Minister Dr Christopher Addison got a new House Act approved as there was a huge demand for working-class housing throughout Britian. The 1919 Act often know as the 'Addison Act' was a significant step forward in producing good quality housing for the masses.

'Homes Fit for Heroes' After WWI Homes were built for the returning men, they were not just houses knock up quick but house built to a standard. In 1920 Wisloe was built to just such a standard. Council housing was good housing and this continued for many years. Of course at a certain point in time big building devolopers were having problems as their jerry built houses were not up to the same standard as the Council ones. Why would anyone one buy them? Were there is large amounts of money to be made there is pressure and these devolopers went to the Government of the day and pressed them not to build so many.

Now in the present day 100 years on standards for buildings are a joke 97% of new owners are dissatisfied and Devolopers don't hang around to fix problems, they are off to get the next family into another shoudy build. You'd like to think these problems do get sorted out swiftly but they can take years and sometime never get fixed. You may think well at least the young get affordable homes now, do they, this is another developers dream only they can sell under the scheme and the housing is over priced but then the Government or we get to pay that.

So where does that leave us, well 100 years on from when we were getting 'homes fit for Heroes' some of these homes will be demolished to make way for a money making scheme for the EARNEST COOK TRUST and GLOUCESTER COUNTY COUNCIL! Will this scheme produce good quality housing, No! It will be built cheap and fast to make profits for all concerned. They didn't even have the guts to show what they planned when the then plans were annouce to get feedback on areas that might be devoloped. No even though they printed their scheme weeks ahead of the review they didn't tell locals until months later and even then they released it to some locals but not to anyone in Wisloe!

What do the Plans mean well for two famillies it maens no home. The first is at the Council farm which has become a successful equine bussiness will be closed and tenants pushed out at the end of their tenancy. The second the House surrounded by the farm as this will become the Community Facilities. No one can tell them what will happen to them except there cannot be a compulsary purchase of their property! So what will happen no one will buy their house so they will be forced to stay through the dust and noise of the new buildings going up and then force to sell cheap to Earnest Cook Trust/GCC to build the Facilities.

What about the rest of Wisloe Road, probably the same. Will Earnest Cook Trust/GCC really want 4 1920's houses with large gardens inbetween the new shoebox houses and the park/ Facilities? I guess not.

So what's the benefits
1, Earnest Cook Trust/GCC make barrels of money selling their cheap agricultural land (last big plot in Gloucestershire) for mega bucks.
2, GCC make loads more money every year from council tax.
3, Builders they make a ton of money.
4, A park will be built next to the Main road, and a hill overlooking the M5 and the main road where you can pinic?

What is the downside
1, Some of us will loose our homes.
2, Noise, polution, road traffic and traffic jams will increase both locally and all the way to the next 2 motorway juctions M5J13 & M5J14.
3, Some of the last high grade agriculcural land in Gloucestershire will be lost to save the money on building on a brownfield site somewhere.
4, Lots of wildlife will be destroyed.
5, Probably by the time they finish the 1500 houses will be 2000 plus and they will still be modelling a new sewer to cope but that's alright, Earnest Cook Trust and GCC don't have to live here and can fairly say not our problem that was upto Severn Trent. The Jammed roads will not be Earnest Cook Trust and GCC problem that was upto the highways and so on. On second reading of the Invite I realise they actually now "at least 1500 dwellings" so there will be more than the initial 1500 proposed. And just remember this to offset another districts housing requirements not just Gloucestershire's. And according to the BBC earlier in the year said "across Gloucestershire and West Oxford 1300 households are classified as in need of housing, at the same time 1200 uninhabited properties also exist!" Maybe we don't need 1500 new houses.
6, Slimbridge Parish will suddenly have more than 60% of its residence living outside of Slimbridge parish across the A38, close the hall and the post office, Power shifts to Wisloe Village.

Think about it and make your voices heard.


Latest on the Wisloe Green Planning Review

Dec 16-17th - Wisloe Green Development

Stroud District Council will be holding a drop in event at Slimbridge Village Hall on Monday 16th December from 2 - 6.30pm and then the following morning Tuesday 17th December from 9.30am - 1. Please do go along to see and give your views as there is significant changes for the parish being proposed with "Wisloe Green" development. Slimbridge Parish Council will also be holding a public planning meeting on the Monday 16th December in the village hall from 7pm where the Local Plan will be discussed and you can leave your comments for consideration for the Parish Council's final response.

The Plan and supporting and background papers are available to view and download at www.stroud.gov.uk/localplanreview.


SDC Enviromental Planing Committee Meeting 24/10/2019

For full list of Documents
https://www.stroud.gov.uk/council-and-democracy/meetings/environment-committee/environment-committee-24-october-2019

Video Feed of Meeting
http://c.connectedviews.com/03/sdc

What amendments have been made to he Plan?

The Berkeley Cluster - Wisloe

PS37 Land at Wisloe

Physical constraints (flood risk, topography, contamination, access)
. The land is in a floodplain with high water table

Potential impacts (heritage, landscape, transport)
. Coalescence of existing villages
. Extra pressure on services and infrastructure of Cam and Dursley
. Pressure on surrounding road system
. Loss of agricultural land
. Vicinity to motorway would be unpleasant for residents
. Impact on the Severn Estuary SAC and the Wildlife Trust
. Impact on views from AONB
. Scale is too large for the area
. Lack of local employment leading to increased car journeys
. Too close to motorway creating an unpleasant place to live Opportunities
. Good access and traffic links, Close to Cam and Dursley station
. Education, health and leisure provision for wider community
. New cycling and walking routes

Council's response

Wisloe is well located adjacent to the A38 and near to Cam & Dursley rail station to provide a relatively sustainable location for growth with wider facilities and services at nearby Cam and Dursley. Development of a new settlement at Wisloe provides the opportunity to transform the level of local facilities which piecemeal development could not provide. The new development will provide local centre facilities including retail and community provision as well as primary school(s), green infrastructure, etc. which will be of benefit to nearby existing local communities as well as those located within the new development. A number of technical studies have been undertaken to explore potential constraints which have identified that: the fields do not contain best and most versatile agricultural land; archaeological resources are unlikely to preclude development; the site is at low risk of flooding but the drainage strategy will seek to improve flood risk for downstream communities. Noise modelling and further ecological work is required which is likely to affect the design and payout of the site but would not prevent development. Coalescence of villages can be avoided through generous green infrastructure and strategic landscaping which is characteristic of a garden community. There are opportunities to provide new and better links for cyclists and pedestrians to the local network, to improve access to Cam & Dursley rail station and to facilities at Cam. The site will be subject to transport modelling and detailed policy wording will be developed taking into account local views for the final Local Plan in 2020.

It lists CAM0015 and CAM0016 as alternatives to Wisloe.

Doesn't look like an altnernative plus isn't there too many new houses there already?


Studio LK Drop-in 24/09/2019

Well I emailed twice asked the question is this the Sept 2018 plan or have you a new plan. Reply came there none!

I'm not sure they'd even seen the Sept 2018 plan and said it was rubbish and there would be no schools next to main roads or building around our house. But they couldn't tell us their plan because they say they don't have one at present. That's probably true as they don't seem to have any knowledge of the SITE, one person pointed out that around 3 acres of the land marked as Earnest Cook Trust belonged to the church. Another said they had no idea about Wisloe Road Business Park existing?

One strange thing was the scale of them maps. They were table size which was impressive but then the SITE was only a few inches across so it was difficult to explain where things were or for some people to even find the area they were talking about.

Studio LK will come back again later this year or early next year and invite everyone back again and we will plan it out together! Hopefully by then they will know what land is owned by ECT and GCC or what business are already here!

They were very good at keeping their calm as a number of us were not happy, especially as they used pictures of our homes without asking!

If anyone moving to BOX Road is reading this beware one solution of our journey to the Railway station is to move it our side of the motorway, cheaper than building new bridges.

For people having cross the A4135 not a problem, a couple of chicanes and 20mph pedestrianized section easy. Road through the estates used as a rat run to the A38 no problem lets put 4 roads out on to the A38 that cuts the traffic per road down by 3/4. People in the future will only have 1.2 car per household and walk, use bikes,ubers and shared cars! To much noise from the motorway they'll put the Industrial units along there to mask the noise. When asked about the trade traffic going through the new housing estates, will put roads around!

When asked if new homes would be built to the minimum standard or a more eco friendly one and got the to the standards of course.

When asked about the lack of gardens in new houses apparently alotements would be on offer and there should be lots of common green space. Although with so many houses, flats carparks roads etc. it's difficult to see where.

They haven't done a project quite like this before so they couldn't show us any example of something similar, do your own research on Studio LK

As someone in a previous one of their Drop-in sessions said "All you're doing is dangling a carrot for us.

We were told we may get better water supply, mains sewage and cheaper energy? Time will tell.


SPC site 18/09/2019

In their usual openness today Wednesday 18th of September, Earnest Cook Trust/GCC have invited all of us to "Land at Wisloe - Consultation Workshop" on Tuesday 24th of September, yes less than one week away. Maybe they knew we normally go on holiday that week, lucky for us we are not. But we will there on Tuesday at the British Legion Hall/Club.

See PDF here

I have asked "Will anyone not on the internet recieve notice of this before the event?" We'll have to wait and see


Latest on the Wisloe Green Planning Review

The submissions were on the SDC site 10/06/2019

Submissions on the Stroud Council Site.

Yes they were there yesterday but after reading "Each item has been read and redacted, to remove individuals' names and personal information" it appears they put some peoples names on their submissions if your name is shown below then you were one:

Nigel cant, Paul Fryer, Jeff brookes, Richard Harris, Robert White, John bennett, Faye Williams, Chris Coates, M Jaggard, jacky coombs, Terri walton, R Swift, N cook, Graham Tilt, Keith Pearson, Kim McMillan, Neil Cook, D Kerry, Julie Butler, Kirk Walton, Lee Sibley, Jane delan, Nicky Sibley, Jane delan, Eve smith, Glenis Hall, Elizabeth Skea, Melanie Polak, Werner Welge, Nigel Stapleton, Steven hollywood, Chris Lacey, Diane Ciofi, P Maher, Izzy Spencer, Paul Harris, Bernadeete Hanlay, Heather Mackie, Nebula Beats, Norman Standen, Nigel Williams, Sandra Millward, Nicholas Chappell, Roy Davis, Katherine mather, Ankur Trivedi, M Griffiths, Wendy sayer, Dave Thombs, Anne Jones, Andrew Davis, C Mydlowski, Brain Webb, Mick Toher, Kim Sturt, Terry Leach, Lee heath, James turner, Jonathan Jarvis, Gary Boyle, Rodney Colebrook, sarah gothard, josiw cowgill, Glyn Jones, Louis Marshall Jane, Samantha Munton, J hall, Alan Terry, Joanne Burgess, Julie Clements, Robert Crockford, Christine Bennett, Moira Buist, Babs Pearn, Carole Jeffes, Shelly Woolams, Terry Hefferman, Joyce Brough, Madeline Grinfelds, Hanna Ashford, Ben and Lucy noble, Andy Page, Katherine Sealey, Matt Thompson, Sarah Lindsay, Sarah davis, Alan bone, Gill Delve, Haydn Jones, Mike Raymond, John Cordwell, John Freeland, Alan Hawley, Eric and Marget Hibbert, John Ewer, rose green, Laura White and M Russell

This is just 99 names for the first 266 submissions I looked at yesterday. Why was I looking because there is no indication which submission relates to which plan.
After scanning through the first 266 I found 34 so far that relate to Wisloe see below:

00325, 00326, 00326, 00330, 00331, 00332, 00333, 00334, 00335, 00337, 00341, 00343, 00351, 00352, 00356, 00359, 00369, 00371, 00378, 00381, 00382, 00391, 00415, 00430, 00435, 00438, 00465, 00470, 00472, 00471, 00477, 00488, 00489, 00504,

I was going to continue today but I guess because I emailed them to say they put peoples name on the whole lot is at present "Page not Found".

I will put more "Wisloe" related ones when it comes back up, hopefully they don't renumber them as I can't go through all that again. If your name is on the above list you might want to ask the SDC how this occurred.

One thing I did notice is they say there are 811 submissions but I can't find anything after 598? Where are the 212 Site Submissions.

Emerging strategy consultation: online reps 00001-251 251
Emerging strategy consultation: e-mail reps 00252-598 347
Site Submissions :Reps 00599-811 212

Latest on the Wisloe Green Planning Review

Received 07/05/2019

RE: Stroud District Local Plan Review Emerging Strategy Paper. (Wisloe green)

The report will be published online by the end of this week. Regards,

Senior Planning Strategy Officer

Stroud District Council

Keep a look out! It may happen this time, 3rd time is a charm.

Click Here for the latest information on the Local Plan Review process and to access published technical studies on the Stroud Council Site.


WHAT'S HAPPENING IN WISLOE

The fire brigade were called to Wisloe Road Business Park after thick black smoke was seen drifting across the A38 Thursday 11th of April in the evening. Strange as the Planning Application for the next 2 units expressly forbids them from burning waste or working on it after 18:00? But then have they got planning permission yet? It says "Awaiting decision on the Council's site! See Planning Docs on the Stroud Council Site.

More Planning News

The Stables (Old Dursley Road) have an Application in to open a Dog Day Boarding business. See Planning Docs on the Stroud Council Site. So why is this listed as Wisloe Road GL2 7AF and not Dursley Road(or Old Dursley Road) GL2 7AG as shown on maps?

For the latest Planning Applications

Click here and type in wisloe or gl27af or whatever to find out more.

News on Wisloe Green Development

Or lack there of. I wrote to Stroud Council asking why nothing had been publish by the end of March, here is there reply;

Dear Mr *******,

Due to the large volume of responses received by email, the processing time has taken longer than expected and we have therefore delayed the publication of the responses and initial report of findings until the end of April.

Regards,

***** ******

Senior Planning Strategy Officer

Stroud District Council

So it looks like another wait until the next one


24th Jan email from Stroud Council

Dear Sir/ Madam

Stroud District Local Plan Review: Emerging Strategy Consultation 2019

Thank you for your response to the above consultation.

We are currently processing all the responses received. We will publish responses and an initial report summarising the responses on the Council's website during March 2019.

Our published programme is to prepare a draft Local Plan for further public consultation in the autumn 2019. In order to meet this timetable we will be taking into account views expressed and information provided during the consultation process, commissioning and publishing various technical studies and working further with stakeholders during 2019. Please refer to our web page for the latest information on the Local Plan Review process and to access published technical studies

Your privacy is important to Stroud District Council. In order to comply with the General Data Protection Regulations (GDPR) we must receive consent to contact you further. If you would like to be kept informed of the Local Plan Review and the publications of planning policy documents please enter your contact details on our consultation database If you have already submitted your details through the above link since May 2018 then you do not need to submit them again. You can withdraw your consent at any time by contacting the Planning Strategy Team.

Should you have any queries on the Local Plan Review, please contact the Planning Strategy Team on 01453 754143 or by email at local.plan@stroud.gov.uk.

Yours faithfully,

Planning Strategy Team
Stroud District Council
 


Objections of Slimbridge Parish Council with regards to the Local Plan Review Consultation


Click Here to read their letter. They reject the Wisoe Green Proposal(PS37) and SLI001 but may concider the SLI003 Proposal. See map below:

 

 
Wisloe Green Countdown Hopefully everyone has sent in their objection to the Wisloe Green Proposed plan. Last day is 18:01:2019 these can not be objections to the proposed development itself but to putting a development here i.e Wisloe Green goes against a wide range of planning policies and should be removed in its current form. It would coalesce all Slimbridge communities and potentially join Dursley and Cam with the Severn Vale (against all planning principles). It is sandwiched between the M5, main Gloucester to Bristol railway and the A38. etc. etc.

They must be in to the Stroud Council by January 18th
Responses and Queries to;

email                      local.plan@stroud.gov.uk

postal address        Local Plan Review
                              The Planning Strategy Team
                              Stroud District Council
                              Ebley Mill
                              Stroud GL5 4UB


So much for unbiased

I hoped this would be an unbiased procedure but I get the feeling Stroud Council are in favour when you visit their website and look at the document heading

"https://www.stroud.gov.uk/media/738591/item-8-appendix-a-final-draft-preferred-strategy-ilovepdf-compressed.pdf"

"Preferred" and "I Love" don't sound unbiased to me. Perhaps in future "final draft strategy pdf compressed" would be enough!


Things to read

how to object to a Planning Application

Planning Help

How to comment on a planning application

Sample Letter of Objection

VALID REASONS FOR OBJECTING

The Campaign to Protect Rural England Guide

Stroud District Local Plan Nov 2015

Wisloe Green Vision Document - promoter material(pdf)

Some of these may help


    Typical reasons to object could be:

Loss of light or overshadowing

Visual amenity (but not loss of private view)

Adequacy of parking/loading/turning

Highway safety

Traffic generation

Noise and disturbance resulting from use

Loss of trees

Layout and density of building

Road access

Local, strategic, regional and national planning policies

Nature conservation

   

    They cannot be:

The perceived loss of property value

The loss of a view

The impact of construction work or competition between firms

Restrictive covenants

Ownerships disputes over rights of way

Fence lines etc

Personal morals or views about the applicant.


Hopefully everyone has seen the link and read the Proposed Wisloe Green Development Plans. Some one just sent us a link https://www.stroud.gov.uk/info/9._Wisloe_Green_Vision_Document_-_promoter_material.pdf!!

If you recieved this through your door please let us know. .


It looks great except it fails to mention either way you get to it will be passed a trading estate. Apparently something will be done about the noise and polution from the very close M5.



  Inital thoughts, looking at the plans it's a joke
The 6 houses on Dursley Road, by the Motorway seem to be cut off totally.
No 5 and 6 Wisloe Road, appear to be in the middle of the Community facilies? 1-4 seem to be in a no mans land between the Park and the housing estate.
Looking at the overal plan it's Barton Field all over again. Where is the parking, since people first moved into Barton Fields they have been parking over the pavement and it looks like there is even less room here.
Again like at Barton Field, the Park at the heart of the settlement will be right next to a 50 MPH road (10 MPH lower than Barton Field so that's a plus) not an accident waiting to happen. Really a Prominent central landscape landmark feature between the A4135 and the M5.
It appears the new school and West side of Wisloe Village will be joining the A4135 on a blind bend not lease because of the green Corridor to cut down noise. As the parents from the present school across the A38 are now starting to park in Wisloe Road, where are all these new parents going to be parking. Will they be blocking the A4135 and A38 as well as St John's Road?
Having been told by someone that this document exists it seems the very least Stroud Council could have done was sent it to Residents that it will affect, probably only 15 houses, some of which will not see or have access to to this as they do not have internet connections! Thanks Stroud Council. This will keep builders, Developers and the Council accountants happy but not the existing residents and probably not the new residents. Why call it after the community they are destroying.


 
If you go on the Ernest Cook Trust website, there is zero about it. Obviously they're proud of their new money making scheme. http://ernestcooktrust.org.uk/
 

Thoughts on the Proposal

Page 5

walk to cam in 45 mins
Residents could walk to Cam or the Railway Station but you have 2 choices; across a field, styles, down a road with no pavement and then across a road(in the road no pavement or pedestrian crossing) railway bridge(all 60mph). Or along the A4135 and over the Railway bridge that has about 18-24" of pedestrian paving, whilst Quarry trucks, plant rental trucks etc. pass by at 50mph!

Page 6

Nice view, but that's where most the houses are going so say goodbye to that.

Page 7

Social - supporting strong, vibrant and healthy communities.
By ripping the heart out the Wisloe community

Environmental - protecting and enhancing the natural and built environment.
What will happen to to the Swallows, bats, starlings that live here let along owls, house and hedge sparrow, wrens, robins, black birds, thrushes, sparrow hawks, buzzards, field fare, red starts, wood peckers, various tits, warblers and finches, and lately red kite. Plus Foxes, badgers, hedhogs, toads, frogs, newts etc.

Page 9

Historically, the Ernest Cook Trust was established in order to encourage learning from the land and it continues to actively pursue this endeavour in a variety of ways today.
What will Earnest Cook Trust learn from this Developement other than how to upset a few people and make even more money?

Gloucestershire County Council has an important role in helping to support sustainable growth in the county.
What quality of life when they pack them in on grade 2 land which can never be recovered. Not a positive legacy but an income for the future.

Page 11

A number of smaller settlements surround the site within reach by road, cycle or by foot.
Only if they finally do something about crossings, pavements and speed limits.

The surrounding area is primarily agricultural with a mix of pastural and arable use. The land is low lying with long views to the west across the Severn Flood plain. The site itself is not within an area identified for flooding by the Environment Agency.
It may not be a flooding area but the water table is an inch or so below the surface and on occassion on the surface.

Given the low lying land opening out to the west the site enjoys a wide horizon and long views of the evening sun and sunsets
Unless you live in a street surronded by houses.

Page 12

The M5 borders the south eastern boundary of the site on a raised embankment with it lying roughly equidistant between Junctions 13 and 14.
Which you'll notice when the M5 has problems, getting on and off or across the A38 can be a long and major problem.

The site has very good access to the local road network given that the A38 borders the western boundary of the site either side of the roundabout it forms with the A4135. The A4135 extends from its junction with the A38 on a northwest southeast alignment to bisect the site. This link then passes over the M5 towards Draycott, Lower Cam and Dursley.
Since Wisloe Road Business Park took off the A4135 is busier than ever and often queues form from just the small population as it is and the Business park Traffic, what will it be like if you add 3000+ cars to that.

Cam & Dursley railway station is located to the southeast of the M5 where is borders the site. As a result, the station is within a 400 metre walking distance of the southern eastern edge of the site as the 'crow flies'.
Yes as the 'CROW FLIES' or if you run across the M5 and Railway lines.

Page 13

This provision extends across overbridge that passes over the M5 prior to narrowing where it passes over the adjacent railway line.
Narrowing indeed and harrowing if you want to take life in hands and walk across.

Page 15

On site, hedgerows are fragmented and poor quality.
By who's definition of fragmented and poor quality?

Page 16

1 Rail links are possible from the nearby Cam & Dursley station
Where will extra commuters park most people have to get lifts to and from the station as it is.

2 Centre the new settlement around a hub of community activity set within a Central Park.
As I live there I cannot comment.

3 Create a prominent, sculptural landscape feature at the centre of the settlement.
Between the M5 and A4135, sounds wonderful if you have ear plugs and a dusk mask.

4 Community facilities create a Local Centre in a location which is within easy reach of the whole settlement and overlook the Central Park.
It's a flood plain how will they overlook the park, it's on the level except where the A4135 rises to go over the M5, so if you're in a car you can overlook the Central Park. and the Community will be able to watch the cars and trucks go up the A4135 and over the M5 bridge once the park is there. Also what happens to the 2 homes in the middle of your Community Facilities?

5 A new School is located centrally and within a rich landscape setting
Fronted by a busy A road the other side of which is the other half of the pupils.

6 Employment space located adjacent to the A38 for easy access but also creating a gateway to the settlement from the south
Yet another access though a business park we have 2 of those as is. Also this means business traffic will cut through the housing estate as will people going to work on a morning rather than queuing at the A38 roundabout. Probably it will be a rat run for everyone not wanting to queue at the round about to go south on the A38.

7 A landscape and acoustic buffer shields the settlement from the motorway and makes the most of the opportunity to enhance ecological continuity and biodiversity
This will have to be good we live where the Community Facilities are to be and it's loud here especially this time of year when the leaves are gone. Also it will have to be tall as the M5 and A4135 are taller the the surrounding flat land (flood plain). Maybe we should be asking why don't we already have this?

8 A green corridor running parallel to the motorway corridor.
I think we alrady have this.

9 Nearer the centre, development comprises a mix of small and medium sized terraced and semi-detached homes.
Noise from the M5 one end and A38 the other. Plus noise from the football club(louder than the roads) and a view for some of the new Monument if you can see passed the old houses.

10 Away from the centre and the central park, and where the settlement edge is formed by road or rail boundaries, development reduces in density with the provision of more private green space
The expensive houses you mean, not so likely to flood and some protection from noise thanks to the people living in area 11.

11 Where the settlement edge meets the landscape and links to the Cam river corridor, development is the least dense
Sound nice but the noisiest and most likely to flood

Page 18

A key pedestrian and cycle desire line from the site for prospective residents and employees will be to the south/south east in order to access Cam & Dursley railway station, Draycott and Lower Cam as these will be important local destinations.
Residents could walk to Cam or the Railway Station but you have 2 choices; across a field, styles, down a road with no pavement and then across a road railway bridge(all 60mph). Or along the A4135 and over the Railway bridge that has about 18" of pedestrian paving, whilst Quarry trucks, plant rental trucks etc. pass by at 50mph!

Page 19

As the site fronts onto the eastern side of the A38 in two locations to the north and south of its junction with the A4135 there is the potential to provide vehicular (incl. bus), pedestrian and cycle access at each of these points.
The road system struggles with the traffic at present between the A4135 and the A38. The A4135 is already a busy road and the Wisloe Road junction is becoming a problem at times. Yet you expect a huge increase in traffic from 15-30 locals at present rising to 750-3000+ in the future to have no influence. And if there is a motorway hold up then it can take literally hours the come up the A38 to Wisloe Road as it is.

What will 1500+ more cars do to the Motorway Junctions, on J14 we already queue back to Stone every morning to get on and queue on the Motorway at night to get home.

Page 20

Diverse and high quality employment space accessible to the A38 and within walkable distance of the settlement.
Will there be any jobs for locals or just companies relocating. Only to half the settlement the other half have to get across the now even busier A4135.

Primary School at the heart of the community and set within a generous learning landscape.
At the heart of nothing it's on the busy A4135, see how their health fares.

Community facilities centrally located.
For half the Community.

A park at the heart of the settlement is surrounded by a mix of uses
Again not really central if your kid has to cross a main road to get there. Hopefully this would be fenced off from the A4135.

Prominent Central Landscape Landmark feature.
so you will build a hill to look down; into the gardens of the people on Dursley rd, the M5 and the A4135. It will be noisy and windy there and probably smelling of exhuast fumes.

A landscape buffer and acoustic bund is designed to shield the settlement from motorway noise
I hope that works, it will have to be high as the M5 is metres above the surounding land.

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Nice aristic view but not of this area. It's a flood Plain, that's flat land, with the exception of the motorway which higher and the A4135 which starts off almost level at the round about and high enough to clear the motor way when it crosses it. The hill illistrated would be 114m across and 24m according to your artist impression and yet to fit that you'd either loose most of the park or build it on the 6 house in Dursley road? What do you get when you climb it 90 - 100 degrees of Wisloe Green/ old Wisloe Road homes and 260 - 270 degrees of the A4135 and M5!
There seems to be slopes everywhere on this flat land. I don't think the child would have a balloon very long, anyone living here knows about the "Wisloe Wind", obviously you do not.

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The development site is located adjacent to the M5 which is likely to be the dominant noise source across the site.
Clearly you know nothing about the acoustics of this area. Most of the time the M5 is the Dominant noise except when the local football club is playing or partying, then the noise can be heard indoor and out, a couple of evenings a week and often weekends. It's not just the level of noise, but what is shouted, is not for young children.

The height of the bund would be determined as part of the design of the scheme
This will be interesting as the motorway and the A4135 are both higher than the surrounding land.

Suitable set back from the M5;
We are where your Community Facilities are sited as far from the M5 as you can get it's still noisy.

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The areas within the flood zones will be utilised as natural parkland along the rivers' edge. This will add value to the land as an ecological enhancement and an area of green space for the residents, while allowing for the flood plain to be utilised when necessary. This water compatible development is deemed an acceptable use of flood zone 2 as described in the Gov.uk Table 3: Flood risk vulnerability and flood zone 'compatibility'.
With all these houses going up and new road more water will be shed faster thus a flood will be more likely than previously.

Further measures across the site where suitable will be taken to ensure the appropriate level of drainage is met, especially if an infiltration design is not possible. This can be incorporated into the green corridor that runs through the development in the form of SuDS techniques such as attenuation basins, swales or permeable paving.
How much drainage on a site that is normally waterlogged for month on end? If you drain the land how long before the existing houses, buildings gas lines etc start to crack.

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The Site itself looks to be dominated by agricultural land (crop and pasture), the quality of which is not possible to determine through a review of aerial photography. Hedgerows, trees and drainage ditches are present across the Site, with the corridor of the River Cam forming in part the northern and eastern boundary. At least three ponds also appear to be present.
Does this mean no one has done a proper survey of the land, certainly the overal plan appears to be devised by someone who has never been here. Maybe google earth has been used although that's usually a couple of years out of date and the street views of Cambridge doesn't even have Barton Field so how many years out of date is that!

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What will happen to to the Swallows, bats, starlings that live here let alone owls, house and hedge sparrow, black birds, thrushes, wagtails, warblers, sparrow hawks, buzzards, field fare, red starts, wood peckers, various tits and finches, robins, wren, and lately red kite. And the birds from Slimbridge WTF that land in the fields. Plus water voles, dormice, harvest mice, Foxes, badgers, hedgehogs, toads, frogs, newts, slow worms etc. And trees like the rare Cambridge Queening?

I see no mention of wind, it's a windy place, "The Wisloe Wind"! Put some terraces up and you'll have some nice wind-tunnel effects. We all have steep roofs and still had problems with rattling tiles. We had to get most of ours nailed down instead of the usual every couple of rows.


If you have thoughts about this send them to .

More importantly send a objection to "local.plan@stroud.gov.uk" these can not be objections to the proposed development itself but to putting a development there i.e

Wisloe Green goes against a wide range of planning policies and should be removed in its current form.

It would coalesce all Slimbridge communities and potentially join Dursley and Cam with the Severn Vale (against all planning principles).

It is sandwiched between the M5, main Gloucester to Bristol railway and the A38.

The protection required from noise and pollution to meet statutory minimums for any future residents would be virtually impossible to achieve.

The landscape harm in the local situation and particularly from the Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty is impossible to mitigate and would, under normal circumstances, prevent development.

The land in question also hosts Red Data list birdlife protected under national and international legislation and roman remains.

There are other brown field sites available, this area is high grade agricultural land (grade 2 - the largest and one of only two blocks in the Stroud District) once built on it will be just another brown field site. Its loss would require far greater inputs on other compensatory land to produce the same or require additional imports and food miles etc.

This land is a flood plain, I know it doesn't flood as such in Wisloe Road but the water table is high enough that we have water sat on the surface at certain times of the year.

What will 1500-3000+ more cars do to the Motorway Junctions, on J14 we already queue back to Stone every morning to get on and queue on the Motorway at night to get home.

The road system struggles with the traffic at present between the A4135 and the A38. The A4135 is already a busy road and the Wisloe Road junction is becoming a problem at times. Yet you expect a huge increase in traffic 15-30 locals at present rising to 1500-3000+ in the future to have no influence. If there is a motorway hold up then it can take literally hours the come up the A38 to Wisloe Road as it is.

If both sides of the A4135 are built up and have better link to the A38 how long before they become rat runs for people trying to avoid the traffic jam at the roundabout.

If you are planing a new community it's going to be difficult having half one side of the A4135 and the other half the other side. How will children cross to go to school or will there be lots of parking. There have been enough accidents when drivers slow down to turn into Wisloe Road now, but there will be traffic coming and going from the other side of the road as well which will be blind to traffic coming down off of the the Motorway bridge. Instead of creating a stronger Community it's having the opposite effect, I see someone on facebook has already queried can Dursley Road be blocked by M.D Collins factory to stop people using their Road!

Will extra parking be available for the Football club, at present they park down Wisloe Road, over the verges, on pavements and in front of houses/drives. This would also be useful to the parents of the old school across the A38 as they have now started parking here when dropping off and picking up their children.

Will new Railway bridges be built? Residents could walk to Cam or the Railway Station but you have 2 choices; across a field, styles, down a road with no pavement and then across a road railway bridge(all 60mph). Or along the A4135 and over the Railway bridge that has about 18" of pedestrian paving, whilst Quarry trucks, plant rental trucks etc. pass by at 50mph!

How will they sell the idea of this new Community with 6 1920's houses spaced out, at the centre of it with their large gardens, compare to the new builds crammed in and their postage stamp gardens and cars parked all over the pavements, and they will probably consider us a blot on their landscape certainly the Developers will. It certainly won't make for a close knit Community as exist here at the moment.

Will the existing residents have to go through years of infrastructure work only to get kicked out at the end when they are in the way?

Will the amentities include shops, Post Office etc.? What will happen to the existing ones that will perhaps loose out to these new ones with easier parking? Maybe that's part of the plan new amenities means the old Village Hall, car park and Post office will become prime house building land?

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